Ephesians 3:12-21, Part 2

[Shield]

Continued from Part 1.

Shield> Ephesians 3:16 that He would grant you, according to the riches of His glory, to be strengthened with power through His Spirit in the inner man,
Lil_Timothy> Yes, Bride
Shield> Bride => your question is very intriguing...
Shield> I think it merits further study
Shield> but lets continue on for now...if thats ok
Hats> Shield, when speaking of the inner man...is that for the believers...saved...or unsaved?
Bride> well ... I was just going to make a point ... add to what Lil_Timothy
Lil_Timothy> Paul mentioned his own struggle with fleshly desires and a desire to serve God
Bride> we are commanded to love the Lord our God with all our what....??
Shield> Hats => the writer is praying for those who have trusted Jesus for salvation
Hats> might
Bride> our heart .... strength and mind ...
Bride> the inner man? correct?
Shield> well its a different word
Lil_Timothy> Inner man is like our word "Heart" ?
Shield> they are different words in the Greek
Shield> inner man basically means inmost being....
Hats> Okay then, the inner man is the part of us that is still part of this world..the sins we commit every day.
Shield> the very essence of a person
Hats> Oh
Hats> Yes
Bride> heart and soul ....
Bride> ??
Shield> i spose that would be a correct correlation
Shield> that is a good observation Bride
Hats> The way a person is or acts.
Shield> but even deeper than that...who they are
Bride> yeah
Hats> Very Interesting
Lil_Timothy> Foundation of way we think and act. Who we are.
Shield> Ephesians 3:17 so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith. And I pray that you, being rooted and established in love,
Shield> Ephesians 3:18 may have power, together with all the saints, to grasp how wide and long and high and deep is the love of Christ,
Shield> we accept Jesus Christ by faith
Hats> Yes
Shield> and we are in Christ by faith
KariK> Can we really ever understand how much his love is?
Shield> KariK => wow....
Hats> No, KariK..not at all.
Shield> in its fullness...
Shield> Hehehe
Shield> well...
Hats> Not in my view
KariK> but, we should want to
Lil_Timothy> It is way too big, thank you Lord for that
Hats> His Love is so much greater than ours
Shield> i have to agree with Hats....yet...
KariK> and that's what he ois saying? he wants us to be able to?
Hats> uh oh
Shield> I totally agree with KariK's desire
Lil_Timothy> yes
Shield> our desire ought to be to know God more fully
Shield> and I know you all agree
Hats> I suppose I'm thinking of when we are in Heaven, Shield
Daisy2> :)
Lil_Timothy> God wants us to understand and share His love
Hats> Yes
Shield> Hats =>i understand my friend
Daisy2> GOD's Love is all around us
Shield> amen
Shield> think of it this way...
Shield> God gave us several things....
Shield> the most obvious is salvation....
Daisy2> :)
Shield> a free gift expressing his love for all the world
KariK> It isn't hard to see his love but we do not see it all.
Shield> KariK => true my friend...too often we get too busy to see his love
Shield> yet God also gave us each other
Shield> as believers in Jesus Christ
Daisy2> :)
Hats> Children of God
Shield> he has called us to love one another and help one another grow in our faith
Shield> amen Hats
Lil_Timothy> We are to love as Jesus loved us
Shield> yes indeed Lil_Timothy
Daisy2> GOD shows us HIS love even when we least expect it
Lil_Timothy> Yes Daisy2
Shield> Ephesians 3:17 so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith. And I pray that you, being rooted and established in love,
Shield> amen Daisy2
Shield> by faith...
Shield> Christ dwells in our hearts
Daisy2> :)
Shield> here is the neat thing....
Shield> when we are in Christ...
Shield> as believers in Him...
Shield> we are rooted...
Shield> and established in Him
KariK> listens
Lil_Timothy> :)
Shield> what does it mean to be rooted and established in love?
Shield> well let me give you my thoughts
Hats> Rooted means strong foundation...that, I feel confident
Shield> well think of the tree
Daisy2> when ur saved...U have a Love different for others than when u where lost
Nerf> like when a tree is rooted in soil everything from the tree comes out of the soil so..
Shield> and the expansive root system
Lil_Timothy> Have a firm and growing relationship with Jesus who shows us how to love
Shield> uh huh
Shield> go on
Nerf> everything we do and r sould come from love
Shield> true
Lil_Timothy> Amen
Hats> It continues to grow
Hats> and become stronger, as our spirit
KariK> how do you make it grow?
Lil_Timothy> the source of love is Jesus
Hats> Through studying God's Word, I would think, KariK.
Lil_Timothy> Relationship with Jesus
Shield> KariK => that is a terrific question
Daisy2> your faith and trusting in the Lord will make it grow
Shield> yes
KariK> oh
Daisy2> make Jesus your #1 relationship
Shield> read Gods word
Hats> Amen, Daisy2
Shield> pray and worship
Daisy2> :)
Lil_Timothy> Get to know Jesus thru His Word the Bible and Prayer
Daisy2> fellowship
Nerf> stay rooted in Him, He will water u :-)
Daisy2> GOD is in control:)
Daisy2> welcome John316+ :)
Hats> Stay, stay in a close relationship with God..through studying and praying. But, the operative word to me, is to "stay"...don't let time pass without going to God in prayer and studying.
KariK> i undestand
Lil_Timothy> Amen Hats
Shield> Ephesians 3:17 so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith. And I pray that you, being rooted and established in love,
Daisy2> the Bible matters :)
Shield> now...
Shield> let me help you all with somethiing if I may...
Daisy2> k
Shield> the words rooted and established are written in a particular form in the original language
Shield> the sense that is given is that we are experiencing ongoing benefits from a past action...
Shield> in other words...
Shield> when we received Jesus as our Savior....
Shield> if indeed you have:)
Shield> you were made to be the child of God
Shield> He made you to be a new person
Shield> and in making you a new person...
Shield> he rooted you and established you in love
Shield> so that you may grow in your faith
KariK> oh wow
Shield> it was a past action
Shield> and it has ongoing benefits
Hats> Oh...that makes more sense..thank you
Lil_Timothy> I am so glad I am made new in Christ, the old was pretty bad
Shield> Ephesians 3:19 and to know this love that surpasses knowledge-- that you may be filled to the measure of all the fullness of God.
Hats> Question...
Shield> sure Hats
Daisy2 still falls short,,, but has GODs Love to help make her grow and grow:)
John316> Paul wanted the believers in Ephesis to love the world around them, not in the world, of it. Loving the world would have been very hard because of the place Ephesis was.
Shield> meeeee too Daisy2
Hats> That verse does "not' mean that we will know all that God knows, right?
Shield> we will not know all God knows
Shield> only God can do that:)
Shield> however
Shield> when he gave us the Bible
Hats> Amen..thank you, Shield
Shield> he gave us the knowledge we need
Shield> Ephesians 3:20 Now to him who is able to do immeasurably more than all we ask or imagine, according to his power that is at work within us,
Daisy2> :)
Shield> Ephesians 3:21 to him be glory in the church and in Christ Jesus throughout all generations, for ever and ever! Amen.
Nerf> amen!!!!
Shield> earlier KariK asked an important question...
Lil_Timothy thinks Wow, God is at work in me
Shield> and I would like to revisit it...
John316> I love 3:20 because it talks about how our prayers are able to be answered by God far behind what we can ever imagine.
Daisy2> HE's still workin on me:)!
KariK> listens
Shield> if i recall it basically had to do with how do we get to know God better...and know what to do
Shield> let me emphasize this in closing....
Shield> and this applies to all of us...
Shield> whether we have just accepted Christ or we have been believers for many years
Shield> we must learn to pray (talk to God and listen to what he says as we read the Bible)
Shield> we must worship Him
Shield> lets pray
John316> Dear Sweet Jesus, I thank You for this time of fellowship with each other...
Daisy2> THANK you Lord for all u do:)
John316> ...I pray that You will bring us closer to You through a study of Ephesians 3.
Daisy2> Thank you Lord for this time of fellowship we had together to study your word
Daisy2> I pray you help us to grow more and more in your loving ways day by day
John316> Jesus, keep us accountable to You this week. Keep us in active prayer for one another, and for Your children around the world.
Hats> We all thank you, Heavenly Father to lead and guide Shield to help us to learn more about your Word. Through Jesus Christ, my Lord and Savior I pray. Amen
Lil_Timothy> Thank you Lord for your precious love
Daisy2> you are so very special to all of us:) Thank you Lord for helping us grow
John316> Lord, we commit our lives to Your service.
Lil_Timothy> Please help me to love others the way you love them Lord
Daisy2> Thank you for your servants to spread your word:)
Hats> Thank you Jesus, for loving us so much that without sin of your own in any way, you died for our sins.
John316> Lord, I pray that You would help us in our weakness. Keep Satan out of lives and keep him from deceiving us.