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This is a discussion on Ephesians 5:1-7 within the Ephesians forums, part of the CCNet Bible Studies from #theChapel category; Shield> Hello and welcome everyone:) Shield> Lets pray Shield> Our Father and our God again we come before you Shield> ...
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Shield> Hello and welcome everyone:)
Shield> Lets pray Shield> Our Father and our God again we come before you Shield> in the simplicity of this moment Shield> may this brief time we have together have eternal implications Shield> may we be open to the teaching of your Word Shield> and may we be willing to make personal application of the principles found therein Shield> in the matchless name of Jesus we pray amen Shield> last week we completed chapter 4 Shield> tonight we shall move on to chapter 5 Shield> so lets get to it together:) Shield> Ephesians 5:1 Therefore be imitators of God, as beloved children; Shield> Ephesians 5:2 and walk in love, just as Christ also loved you and gave Himself up for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God as a fragrant aroma. Shield> what is he saying? Shield> the word therefore certainly is an indicator Shield> he is building upon his preceding argument regarding our behavior Shield> Ephesians 4:32 Be kind to one another, tender-hearted, forgiving each other, just as God in Christ also has forgiven you. Shield> Ephesians 5:1 Therefore be imitators of God, as beloved children; Shield> Ephesians 5:2 and walk in love, just as Christ also loved you and gave Himself up for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God as a fragrant aroma. Shield> he is drawing a distinction Shield> the contrast between being unlike God...and as snapette points out...being like God Shield> here we see Paul pointing to Jesus Shield> Jesus Christ loved us Shield> and his love was demonstrated by virtue of his life....and his willing sacrifice on our behalf Shield> but there are certain things that tend to derail God's design Shield> and they are very potent Shield> and distructive Shield> as a Pastor and human being I witness the affects daily Shield> everyday I walk over the ash heaps of broken families and lives Shield> and broken children Shield> Ephesians 5:3 But immorality or any impurity or greed must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints; Shield> yet it must have been an issue Shield> indeed it was Shield> the Apostle was not speaking theoretically snapette> i.e. sins derailed God's design Shield> yes Shield> particularly sins that pertain to immorality and greed Shield> Ephesians 5:4 and there must be no filthiness and silly talk, or co**** jesting, which are not fitting, but rather giving of thanks. Shield> this verse lends itself to some explanation Shield> as does the previous one Shield> Here we see some very specific issues gara> satan is very subtle and often not reconginzed until you are in the middle of negative actions. Shield> yes thats very true gara Shield> the issue of sexual immorality is probably the most potent and prevalent both then and now Shield> although this venue is not designed to explore it in detail given both males and females and often children may be present Shield> the point remains valid Shield> and is noteworthy Shield> beyond that in verse 4 we see the term silly talk Shield> this refers to innuendo Shield> wittiness snapette> or idle talk? Shield> not here... Shield> tho that is valid gara> leading someone to believe what is not true without actually stating it. gara> in plain words the "white Lie" Shield> here it is referring to witticisms that refer to sexual innuendo Shield> since that was and is the most common form of inapropriate joking writer> mmm, good one Shield> co**** jesting refers to more overt types of inappropriate conversation Shield> i find it interesting that the writer provides a substitute to these behaviors Shield> thanksgiving Shield> Ephesians 5:4 and there must be no filthiness and silly talk, or co**** jesting, which are not fitting, but rather giving of thanks. Shield> so he says...don't do these things.... Shield> rather..be thankful! Shield> and we have so much to be thankful for! Shield> Ephesians 5:5 For this you know with certainty, that no immoral or impure person or covetous man, who is an idolater, has an inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God. Shield> This is a very pointed passage Bride> the thankfulness turns our focus to HIm and away from that which we are tempted to do in the flesh Shield> amen Bride! Shield> very good point Shield> if we would focus on being thankful for Gods free gift of salvation and his many blessings...we wouldnt have time to be miserable in all these sinful behaviors! Bride> well Bride> thankfulness gives way to praise ... and we should find it hard to praise out of one side of the mouth and use it to be immoral at the same time Shield> very very true gara> there is actually no satisfaction in those behaviors-they are at best fleeting and short lived-thankfulness and praise keep your mind on the fact taht you are a vistor here and a citizen of the heavenly kingdom. Shield> yes indeed gara Shield> Ephesians 5:5 For this you know with certainty, that no immoral or impure person or covetous man, who is an idolater, has an inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God. Shield> what is God saying in this text? Shield> well gara> that you can have your impure thoughts and jokes-run after things that will pass away in the twinkling of an eye when Jesus returns or you can follow the Lord gara> into the fields of the world and build up the kingdom and reap a much more lasting joy and love Shield> basically he is saying that there are specific measureable ways to determine the validity of a persons commitment to Jesus Christ Shield> amen gara Shield> God really doesnt pull any punches here Shield> he states it like it is Shield> God is holy Shield> and no unholy person or thing can be in his presence snapette> that no sin enters into Heaven Shield> amen snapette gara> amen Shield> Ephesians 5:6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. Shield> Ephesians 5:7 Therefore do not be partakers with them; Shield> there are some teachers who would teach that its ok to partake in certain sinful behaviors Rock> Empty words are words that do not glorify Christ...that do not lead to his kingdom...right? Shield> yes Rock I would agree Shield> and in fact they lead away from his Kingdom Rock> The "new-age" teachings are hollow...contain no hope. Shield> they are not neutral Shield> but they offer false hope Shield> ergo they deceive Rock> Hope in anything except Jesus is hollow...or false. snapette> aman Shield> yes indeed Shield> the thing is Shield> there is only one way Shield> 1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, Shield> let me ask you all something Shield> in the privacy of your own thoughts and home Shield> how is your relationship with God going? Shield> first of all... Shield> do you have a relationship with God? Shield> if not and you would like to .... Shield> please feel free to pc me now Shield> open the pc window and in a moment we can talk some more Shield> but if you do know Jesus Shield> and you struggle with some area of sin Shield> please know that God has not abandoned you Shield> nor has he turned His back on you Shield> He loves you Shield> repent of any sinful behavior and confess your sins to someone either here or in real life Shield> and God will forgive you Shield> 1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. Shield> lets pray Shield> Our Father you know the hearts of each one here Shield> please help us not to turn aside from this opportunity you have given us Shield> may we be willing to turn away from our sin Shield> and may we be willing to confess our sins to one another so that we may be forgiven and find freedom from these behaviors Shield> in the mighty name of Jesus I pray Shield> amen |
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