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This is a discussion on Mark 1:10-13 within the The Gospel of Mark forums, part of the CCNet Bible Studies from #theChapel category; Shield> Father thank you for this night and for the opportunity we have to study your Scriptures together. Shield> We ...
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Shield> Father thank you for this night and for the opportunity we have to study your Scriptures together.
Shield> We ask that you would minister to each one here and those that come in as we progress. Shield> We thank you, Lord, for all you have done for us. Shield> Thank you for your blessings, both material and spiritual. Shield> Thank you for the blessing of living in lands which dwell in liberty. Shield> Thank you for providing for our needs. Shield> And thank you for the responsibility you have laid on us to meet the needs of those less fortunate. Shield> We pray these things in the matchless name of Jesus Christ, amen. carol> amen Shield> Just to bring those of you who have arrived as I was praying, I want to point out that the logs of the studies are being posted to www.forums.christianworld.com Shield> You may interact with the content there as you continue reading the text of Mark Shield> Last week I forgot to give you an assignment. Shield> But that is okay. Shield> Hopefully some of you chose to read ahead anyway. Shield> Last week we began our inductive excursion into the Gospel of Mark Shield> We were introduced to the fact that Mark most likely was the first gospel written. Shield> And we also learned that it is probable that Matthew and Luke used Mark as a source, in addition to the authors being eyewitnesses. Shield> This is important to note because it helps us to gain insight into the author's perspective. Shield> We left off at Mark 1:9 last week. Shield> I want to backtrack just a bit... Shield> John the Baptist said: Shield> "After me will come one more powerful than I, the thongs of whose sandals I am not worthy to stoop down and untie. Shield> then John continued, saying: Shield> Mark 1:8 I baptize you with water, but he will baptize you with the Holy Spirit." Shield> Let's look at that verse again for a moment Shield> what ****ouns are used? Shield> ****ouns=I,he,she,they,we,him, etc Shield> anyone? Deacon> I you he Shield> yes Shield> lets go a step deeper Shield> in relation to "I" what is the tense of the verb "I baptize?" eags> present Shield> correct Shield> so it can be translated, I baptize or I am baptizing. Shield> in relation to the word you, what is the tense of the word he will baptize Shield> in the Greek it is one word, btw Shield> in English it is three words Shield> anyone? eags> significance of one word ? Shield> tense Shield> we will get to significance shortly eags> k Shield> "he will baptize" eags> future Shield> is that....past tense? Shield> ah Shield> future tense Shield> it is something that WILL happen, which has not yet happened Shield> important to note. Shield> and finally... Shield> who is the "you"? carol> born again Christians' JoyoftheLord> the church Shield> actually not finally, but still, who is the "you" of whom John speaks Shield> well, remember the context of this passage... Shield> let's look at it again... Shield> Mark 1:5 The whole Judean countryside and all the people of Jerusalem went out to him. Confessing their sins, they were baptized by him in the Jordan River. Shield> 1. the church had not yet been established. JoyoftheLord> Jesus Shield> 2. I think it is probably safe to say that some, even many were by that time born again Shield> the you, in the Greek, is plural Shield> it refers to all of John's listeners Shield> I realize that the English does us a disservice here Shield> but John is speaking to all those from the whole Judean countryside and all the people of Jerusalem Shield> a multitude of people Shield> it is possible there was a bit of hyperbole here Shield> but that is difficult to say Shield> lets look at the verse again Shield> Mark 1:8 I baptize you with water, but he will baptize you with the Holy Spirit." Shield> and then.... Shield> Mark 1:9 At that time Jesus came from Nazareth in Galilee and was baptized by John in the Jordan. Shield> one of the characteristics we are going to pick up about Mark... Shield> is that it is an action based gospel Shield> it is concerned with details which propel forward the narrative Shield> think about it Shield> there is no birth narrative of the nativity Shield> as in Luke and Matthew Shield> there is no indication of Jesus’ childhood Shield> there is no mention of the Wedding of Cana, Jesus reputed first miracle Shield> and so on Shield> instead the writer proceeds directly to an encounter between the prophet, the voice in the wilderness, the forerunner of Christ, and Christ Jesus himself Shield> THAT says something, in my estimation, about the gospel writer's perspective Shield> so Jesus came from Galilee, specifically Nazareth Shield> down to the Jordan Shield> and Jesus was baptized Shield> remember Shield> John's baptism was a baptism which signified what, according to this text? Shield> anyone? RenewedSpirit> death? eags> the coming of Christ JoyoftheLord> the coming of the Lord Shield> let’s look at a verse that will remind us of what he himself says.... Shield> ark 1:4 And so John came, baptizing in the desert region and preaching a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins. Angel4God> death to old life, alive in Jesus RenewedSpirit> repentance and forgiveness of sins Shield> now, look at that verse, and see what it has to say Shield> yes Shield> repentance Shield> and forgiveness of sins Shield> now back to verse 9 Shield> actually verse seven Shield> I want you to "feel" the tension here in the text carol> ministry of Christ Shield> verse seven... Shield> Mark 1:7 And this was his message: "After me will come one more powerful than I, the thongs of whose sandals I am not worthy to stoop down and untie. Shield> John admits he is the lesser Shield> and that he is not worth to stoop down and untie Jesus’ sandals Shield> he then says that he baptizes with water (for repentance and forgiveness of sins) carol> he is a created being Shield> but that Jesus baptizes with the Holy Spirit Shield> and then... Shield> watch this... Shield> Jesus submits to water baptism Shield> by John Shield> now think with me on this Shield> what is significant about this? Shield> given what we just learned about Baptism in water by John? Shield> baptism in water focuses on repentance and forgiveness of sins Shield> and yet Jesus was baptized in water Shield> did Jesus sin? eags> it would seem unnecessary for Jesus RenewedSpirit> Jesus repented (but for what? he is sinless?) Shield> bingo Shield> Jesus was and is sinless Shield> but nevertheless he was obedience Shield> and he set the example RenewedSpirit> ahh yes obedience Shield> with that in mind... Shield> watch this with a view to God the Father's response to this obedience. Shield> Mark 1:10 As Jesus was coming up out of the water, he saw heaven being torn open and the Spirit descending on him like a dove. Shield> who came up out of the water? RenewedSpirit> Jesus did Shield> who saw heaven torn open? RenewedSpirit> Jesus did carol> Jesus Shield> who saw the Spirit descend on him like a dove? carol> John RenewedSpirit> Jesus did Shield> Jesus did, on all counts Shield> Mark 1:11 And a voice came from heaven: "You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased." eags> o/ Shield> yes eags? eags> torn open ....meaning ? RenewedSpirit> the sky opened up so the Spirit could descend upon RenewedSpirit> Jesus eags> would that be clouds Shield> well it is the word from which we get our word schitzoid RenewedSpirit> which means? Shield> it means split, tear, divide, separate, disunite, to name a few RenewedSpirit> ok Shield> basically it means God acted in terms of rearranging the heavens for a moment:) Shield> so back to our verse Shield> Mark 1:11 And a voice came from heaven: "You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased." RenewedSpirit> yup eags> ty Angel4God> Praise the Lord Shield> pretty cool statement huh? Shield> I mean... Shield> God is pleased RenewedSpirit> yes , That His Son obeyed Shield> and he interrupted the ordinary placement of the heavens to make it known Shield> here again is a point which it is helpful to consider the original language Angel4God> like a curtain opening for the Son of God to receive the Holy Spirit Shield> literally, it is saying, you are my beloved son eags> o/ Shield> without going into technical jargon, it is an elegant way of bringing particular focus to the love of the Father for the Son Shield> yes eags? eags> would that statement imply divinity in the original text Angel4God> in Whom I am well pleased RenewedSpirit> Yes Shield Shield> well clearly we know that Jesus is the Son of God, fully God and fully human Shield> this particular phrase simply says he is God's beloved Son eags> ok ..ty Shield> this passage is also a favorite for those who adhere to orthodox Christianity Shield> by reason of witnessing the presence of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit in one periscope Shield> any other questions? Shield> ok Shield> so God is pleased Shield> the Spirit has descended like a dove Shield> the multitudes looked on in amazement Shield> the forerunner has just baptized he who would baptize with the Holy Spirit Shield> what a powerful moment Shield> soak it in Shield> God was present in that place Shield> it was pivotal for the redemptive history of the world Shield> but the narrative does not end there. Shield> the writer has more to say Shield> and I want you to feel the impact Shield> Mark 1:12 At once the Spirit sent him out into the desert, Shield> Mark 1:13 and he was in the desert forty days, being tempted by Satan. He was with the wild animals, and angels attended him. Shield> say what!? RenewedSpirit> yup... without that experience... would He have survived the 40 days in desert? Shield> now think about it Shield> from a Jewish point of view Shield> they were looking for Messiah Shield> they wanted Rome off their backs Shield> they wanted the burden lifted Shield> surely this was the time to take the kingdom by force Shield> not all thought this, but I can guarantee you it would become a theme in the weeks ahead as Jesus ministry progressed Shield> so the one who would minister in power Shield> the one would baptize with the Holy Spirit and who in fact had just been approved by the Father and visited by the Holy Spirit in the form of a dove... Shield> that same one was immediately sent alone into the desert Shield> immediately Shield> the word immediately is a recurring theme of Mark Shield> and for forty days, among the wild animals and the ongoing temptation of Satan, Jesus faced temptation and suffering alone. Shield> at the conclusion of that time, sp**** in its details in this gospel, the angels ministered to him Shield> when doing inductive study, as we are doing a bit of here, although not in nearly so much detail as we might like... Shield> We concern ourselves with investigating what the text actually says. Shield> What we think it says does not always match what it does say. Shield> Usually this is because we tend to read it through the lenses of our own backgrounds. Shield> Our challenge is to read the text itself and let it speak for itself. Shield> It is a difficult challenge, but very worthwhile if we are faithful to the task Shield> secondly, we want to learn what the text meant for its original audience. Shield> This can, at times, be illusive as well. Shield> simply because it requires some discipline and some reliance on solid biblical scholarship. Shield> thirdly, we want to glean principles for application Shield> fourth, we want to identify specific, measurable and realistic points of application into our own lives, and then indeed carry them out. Shield> Here is your assignment for next week:) Shield> Read the entire chapter one of Mark five times straight through. Shield> Then read through again, starting with verse 14 and following Shield> this time make notes such as what we have been doing Shield> any repetition Shield> contrast Shield> verb tenses Shield> unique statements or words Shield> observe like a scientist Shield> and be ready for next week:) Shield> Let's pray eags> sounds good Shield> Our Father, Angel4God> yes as always Shield> As we study this text in the weeks to come Shield> May we do so with a fresh set of eyes Shield> setting aside our presumptions Shield> and instead studying for ourselves what the text actually says Shield> and in so doing Shield> may the Spirit of the Lord rest on each one here as they investigate your Word Shield> may our eyes be opened Shield> may we be all the more sensitive to what you are saying to us Shield> in Jesus name amen Angel4God> amen carol> amen JoyoftheLord> amen Deacon> Amen |
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