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This is a discussion on Mark 4:35-41 within the The Gospel of Mark forums, part of the CCNet Bible Studies from #theChapel category; @Shield> now then, let's get our Bibles and get to work @Shield> Mark chapter four @Shield> verse 33 and following ...
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@Shield> now then, let's get our Bibles and get to work
@Shield> Mark chapter four @Shield> verse 33 and following @Shield> Mark 4:33 With many such parables he spoke the word to them, as they were able to hear it; @Shield> Mark 4:34 he did not speak to them except in parables, but he explained everything in private to his disciples. @Shield> And we have been tracking with these parables throughout Mark's gospel. @Shield> We have seen the frustration of the Pharisees and religious leaders. @Shield> we have seen the confusion @Shield> and their conspiring @Shield> we have seen the struggle of the disciples to understand, even when Jesus clearly explained to them the parables @Shield> we have witnessed the inter-relatedness of each of the parables and the narrative in which they are revealed. @Shield> We have seen the progression of Jesus revealing his character and nature. @Shield> And the progression of those plotting against his life. @Shield> and now, suddenly, the parables stop for the moment. @Shield> Let's step into the boat figuratively with Jesus and disciples and watch the events unfold. @Shield> Mark 4:35 On that day, when evening had come, he said to them, "Let us go across to the other side." @Shield> the other side of what? @Shield> anyone know? Tigeress-Away> o/ @Shield> yes Tigeress-Away? Tigeress-Away> lake @Shield> exactly @Shield> seems like a harmless thing, right? @Shield> nice placid scene right out of a Hallmark movie. @Shield> So let's hope in the boat with them, fishing rods in hand.... @Shield> no, they didn’t have fishing rods. I was trying to be funny:) @Shield> But there they were, all in the boat, and ready to cast off. @Shield> Mark 4:36 And leaving the crowd behind, they took him with them in the boat, just as he was. Other boats were with him. @Shield> nice peaceful scene, yes? @Shield> waving to the crowd as they shrank in the distance.... @Shield> ah, just the type of thing to bring on a bout of sleepiness.... @Shield> and that is exactly what Jesus did, as we shall soon discover. @Shield> The lake to which Tigeress-Away refers is not just any lake. @Shield> which lake is it, anyone know? Tigre_blanc> o/ @Shield> yes Tigre_blanc? Tigre_blanc> The Sea of Galilee @Shield> exactly, thank you @Shield> The Sea of Galilee, notorious for its swift changes in conditions. @Shield> It could be more aptly compared to one of the Great Lakes of North America @Shield> You cannot see from one s**** to the other. @Shield> but that wasn't a problem @Shield> after all... @Shield> Jesus was with a group of experienced fishermen. @Shield> These men knew the lake. @Shield> they were seasoned and understood the ways of the sea. @Shield> Naw, not a problem at all. @Shield> Mark 4:37 A great windstorm arose, and the waves beat into the boat, so that the boat was already being swamped. @Shield> let's p**** this passage a bit. @Shield> what is happening in this verse? @Shield> anyone? Tigeress-Away> o/ @Shield> yes Tigeress-Away? Tigeress-Away> a storm ? @Shield> yes...go on Tigre_blanc> o/ @Shield> yes Tigre_blanc? GentleDove> o/ Tigre_blanc> the boat was taking on water and starting to sink @Shield> good... @Shield> yes GentleDove? Deacon> o/ GentleDove> I was just going to say the boat was sinking @Shield> ok, good observations, don’t be afraid to say the obvious... @Shield> yes Deacon? Deacon> panic @Shield> well remember, we are just observing this specific verse... @Shield> we will get to the panic bit in a moment...but good anti****tion:) @Shield> let me ask this... @Shield> why was the boat being swamped? Tigeress-Away> o/ @Shield> yes Tigeress-Away? Tigeress-Away> the wind and waves beating it @Shield> correct... @Shield> so let's review the scene and I will add my observations to prompt you... @Shield> We know that a windstorm arose. @Shield> but actually... @Shield> It wasn't just a windstorm. @Shield> It was a great windstorm @Shield> It was a spectacular windstorm, if you consider the author's original language. @Shield> It was a surprising windstorm, so surprising that it even caught the author and the disciples off guard, some of whom were seasoned fishermen and sea men. @Shield> this foreshadows the panic to which Deacon so perceptively referred. @Shield> we can be reasonable sure that these seasoned fishermen had seen wind and waves before. @Shield> We can also be reasonably sure that they had enough sense to use a boat that was seaworthy. @Shield> Would you agree? @Shield> So here we are... Jim> I would agree @Shield> in the boat which is experiencing horrific winds, terrible, even monstrous waves and it is being swamped. @Shield> All of a sudden, this is no longer a Hallmark movie. @Shield> It is more of a summer blockbuster, or at least a movie of the week:) Tigeress-Away> :-) @Shield> watch what happens... @Shield> and be ready again to observe... @Shield> Deacon, you have first dibs in a second... @Shield> Mark 4:38 But he was in the stern, asleep on the cushion; and they woke him up and said to him, "Teacher, do you not care that we are perishing?" @Shield> what is happening now? Deacon> o/panic now Deacon> Hehe @Shield> Hehe @Shield> bingo Tigeress-Away> o/ @Shield gives Deacon the prize, a two way ticket to CCNet World, wherever that may be:) @Shield> yes Tigeress-Away? Tigeress-Away> and Jesus was sleeping and they had 2 wake him @Shield> yes! @Shield> remember @Shield> this was a horrific storm which had thrown seasoned fishermen into a panic @Shield> and Jesus was.... @Shield> sleeping. @Shield> any other observations? Bethel> o/ @Shield> yes Bethel? Bethel> They asked Jesus if he even care if they drowned @Shield> good observation, yes GentleDove> o/ @Shield> they had panicked to such a degree that they questioned whether he cared, and they realized that all of their expertise was to no avail in helping them out of this situation @Shield> yes GentleDove? @Shield> panicked btw:) GentleDove> May I back track a little? It said there were other little ships with him @Shield> ah ha! GentleDove> Who were they and did they drown? @Shield> Someone is paying attention to the details! @Shield> We have no way of knowing:) @Shield> but very good observation GentleDove> Or were they other witnesses to what Jesus did? @Shield> the text simply doesn't say what became of them and whether they were involved in the storm when it transpired @Shield> but that is an excellent question @Shield> that is what it means to do an inductive study and ask the questions of the text @Shield> sadly, I do not know the answer:) @Shield> thank you though, for asking @Shield> so let's press on GentleDove> yw @Shield> Mark 4:39 Then He arose and rebuked the wind, and said to the sea, "Peace, be still!" And the wind ceased and there was a great calm. @Shield> observations? Tigeress-Away> o/ @Shield> yes Tigeress-Away? Tigeress-Away> he got up and spoke to the wind and told it to stop ... or be still give them peace @Shield> ok thank you @Shield> let me ask this question Deacon> o/ @Shield> go ahead Deacon Deacon> He had power over the wind @Shield> again you anti****te me! @Shield> :D Deacon> sorry @Shield gives Deacon a noogie @Shield> just kidding:) Deacon> :) @Shield> How many here have power over the wind? @Shield> anyone? @Shield doesn’t @Shield> of course we don’t. @Shield> that is a silly notion, obviously @Shield> But here we see Jesus doing that very thing, rebuking the wind, telling it, "Peace, be still!" @Shield> and the wind ceased and there was "great" calm @Shield> the same word for great here, was used when the wind was great @Shield> it was a surprising calm @Shield> a stunning calm @Shield> NRSV says, a dead calm @Shield> I am following a blog by a couple who is sailing for 1000 days in the oceans of the world. @Shield> they are on day 168, I believe. @Shield> they transmit their thoughts via satellite uplink @Shield> and someone posts it to their blog @Shield> they speak of the calmness of certain parts of the ocean @Shield> but it is reasonably certain, that any squalls they have faced have not been met with "dead calm" at the command of either of them @Shield> Only Jesus can do that. @Shield> now watch what happens next.... @Shield> Mark 4:40 He said to them, "Why are you afraid? Have you still no faith?" @Shield> Mark 4:41 And they were filled with great awe and said to one another, "Who then is this, that even the wind and the sea obey him?" @Shield> other translations use the word terrified in place of awed @Shield> and I think in this case they are correct. @Shield> They certainly were awed, but also fearful, even terrified. @Shield> not simply because of the affects of the storm, which had caused them to panic @Shield> but because they wondered at who this is, this Jesus, whom they had gotten to know and whom they had walked with and witnessed his teachings and miracles. @Shield> They wondered who this is, that even the wind and the sea obey him. @Shield> The narrative continues in the next chapters, but we will draw to a close for the evening here.... @Shield> keeping in mind that when Jesus asked them have you still no faith.... @Shield> he was doing so in light of all the parables he had explained to them, and all the miracles they had witnessed up to this point. @Shield> Beginning next week we will see great faith in action among those Jesus influences in chapter five and following. @Shield> Ask yourself, @Shield> Do I really trust Jesus? @Shield> Is he my Lord and Savior? @Shield> Do I believe what he says? @Shield> Do I act on what he requires of me? @Shield> to love the Lord God with all my heart, mind, soul and strength @Shield> and to love my neighbor as myself? @Shield> Do I trust him enough to do that with all my heart, regardless of the consequences in the natural? @Shield> let's pray Snapstur> Dear Heavenly Father we thank You for this Bible Study that has cause to learn more of You. Tigeress-Away> yes Lord Snapstur> Lord, We praise Your Name for You are the Lord of the Heavens and the Earth GentleDove> yes Lord Snapstur> Lord, bless Shield and those that are working hard to make this server run smoothly as possible Snapstur> to make this ministry a place for those who are seeking answers and help. Snapstur> Lord, we thank You for all that You have done and for WHO You are Tigeress-Away> thank you Jesus for all you do lead and guide us daily Snapstur> Thank You for Your Sacrifice and that Your took away our sins Snapstur> Lord, bless us as we go about our daily tasks and protects us. Snapstur> In Jesus' Name we pray Amen Tigeress-Away> yes Lord Tigeress-Away> amen GentleDove> amen Tigre_blanc> Amen Deacon> Amen Carol> amen |
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