Is Christianity able to embrace homosexuals and women's equality to men?

[witnesstheday]

Pope shocked at notion of equality for women - The Vatican is challenging the attempt to create gender equality in the Christian church

http://www.politicsdebate.co.uk/politics23.html

Women and homosexuals are still second class for 230 Anglican Bishops and for the Pope. Should muslims, other christians or just women and homosexuals try and convert these many misguided sheep?

[gagirl]

The Bible, which is our final authority does not speak of women being equal to men. God gave Adam an helpmeet in Eve. In the area of ministry the bible speaks of a bishop being the husband of one wife. I believe women can minister because God has recently called me to preach as an evangelist. I never desired that role but we have to be obedient to what God has called us to do. The Word says in the last days I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh, your sons and daughters shall prophecy....... On the subject of homosexuality, we should love the homosexual but not condone his sin. When we accept Christ we become a new creation, the old man has passed away. There are many verses in the bible which speak against homosexuality as being an abomination and those which continue to live in that sin will not inherit the Kingdom of God.(1corinthians 6:9)

[BrotherJames]

Hello gagirl. Peace of Christ.

You say <<<The Bible, which is our final authority does not speak of women being equal to men<<

Correct!!!! Do you think God made a mistake when He made that decision?!!

>>>I believe women can minister because God has recently called me to preach as an evangelist.<<<

Listen what you say "I BELIVE"....not God believes...if you recived such a call was not from Jesus....so!!! who is the one who did such a thing?!!!!

>>> I never desired that role but we have to be obedient to what God has called us to do<<<<

CORRECT!!! so stay with your husband and kids and do what the Lord said...If you believe that we are to be Obedient to the God of the bible...you are doing your job just being a Wide and a Mother, and probably a Grandma...do not worry....

>>>The Word says in the last days I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh, your sons and daughters shall prophecy<<<

CORRECT! but the bible says this:
Isaiah 26:10 Though "GRACE" is shown to the wicked (Law-Breaker) they do not learn "RIGHTEOUSNESS" (Law-Keeping)+Jude 4 For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slippped in among you. They are "GODLESS" men who CHANGE "THE GRACE OF OUR GOD" into License To SIN (Break the Law) and deny Jesus Christ (He is YHWH in human body) our "ONLY" Sovering and Lord....

Prophecy means to "Praise the Lord"....not to be saying things about the future..
>>On the subject of homosexuality, we should love the homosexual but not condone his sin<<

Where does the bible says that sister/!!! can you give me the Chapter and versicle please?!!!!!

The bible says this: 1 John 5:2This is how we "KNOW WE LOVE THE CHILDREN OF GOD" and no children of God is a homosexual......Now! as humans I agree with you, I always have respected those people and prostitutes, since I lived among them for a couple of years when I was young doing drugs...

>>>On the subject of homosexuality, we should love the homosexual but not condone his sin<<<

>>>On the subject of homosexuality, we should love the homosexual but not condone his sin<<

No, no, no, beloved sister as a catholic I accept Christ since I was a little boy and altar boy...but as I started growing up I became a wonderful catholic who loved to drink, smoke, girls and sex, pot and drugs, etc. etc..yet! I never worried because every sunday I to comunion and I was clean again. (What a way to be decived by satan) all I had to said was a couple of our Father or Hail Marys and I was clean...but!! what a rude awakening when I read my first bible....I was in my way to Hell...even do I changed from catholicism to protestantism...satan is slick.....Christ said....Many will call me Lord, Lord, Lord, but I will not hear them, Only the ones who do the "WILL OF MY FATHER" (Keep His Law and believe that the Father come in flesh as Jesus a.k the Son)...So!! I had to start all over again, but this time, I am sure of my salvation.....I hope you can understand and join Jesus...

>>>There are many verses in the bible which speak against homosexuality as being an abomination and those which continue to live in that sin will not inherit the Kingdom of God.(1corinthians 6:9)<<<

The Word of God says "NO HOMOSEXUALS" in the kingdom of heaven, what I do I say that to the ones I talk, but I said this: Do what Pleases the Lord and just wait for judment day...Maybe His Love and Mercy will give a chance.....but stop having sex with many....stick to one...other thant that is A "NO" reagrdles..and that is God's decision....

The devil as changed many of God's decisions, such as His Sabbath-Day, from Saturday to Sunday, His name, from Jesus to jehovah and yahweh, His baptism from in the Name of Jesus, to in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, His Law, into grace (Lawlessness)...many, many are walking the wrong path the path who leads to Hell...I myself was one of them....Not anymore.....

God Bless..........Brother James

[gagirl]

Hello Brother James:,

I read your reply and considered it now here is my reply.

>>>>you said God did not call me to preach<<<

Two different evangelists told me I was called to preach, and actually God had already told me to. They were just confirming it.(2 Cor.13:1) By the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.

I said to the Lord; Lord if you want me to preach then give me a message from your word, He always does.

God used women like Esther. She was bold, she fasted and prayed and spoke the words the Lord told her to say and did what the Lord told her to do and saved the Jewish people from extinction.

(Acts 2:18) and on my servants and on my handmaidens will I pour out in those days (last days)of my Spirit and they shall prophecy.

The Webster's Dictionary and Strong's Concordance both say that prophecy is foreknowledge or speaking under divine inspiration .

In the books of prophecy like (Daniel and Ezekiel...) they wrote what they saw under divine inspiration concerning the future. Where did you get that prophecy meant "praise the Lord'?

>>>Concerning loving homosexuals<<<<

(1Cor.6:9-11) know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? be not deceived neither fornicators,nor idolaters,nor effeminate (gays)etc... And such were some of you but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified , but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.

A sin is a sin .If a homosexual repents of their sin and turns it. God is faithful and just to forgive them

Luke 6:27)
Love your enemies do good to them which hate you. Bless them that curse you

>>>>>concerning the Sabbath<<<<
I am not against worshiping on the Sabbath, but most churches worship on Sunday. God led me to a church that worships on Sunday. (Col.2:16) Let no man judge you therefore in meat or in drink or in respect of an holyday or of the new moon or of the Sabbath days.

I believe in Jesus name baptism.

Be baptized in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost ,those are titles, the name is Jesus.

We are saved by grace through faith.(John 1:17)for the law came by Moses but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

Blessings, Shannon

[BrotherJames]

Hello gagirl. Peace of Christ.

First of all thanks a million for you post and!!! let us look and what scriptures and the devil say regarding issues o.k....let us start with this:

YOU SAY >>>>1Cor.6:9-11) know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? be not deceived neither fornicators,nor idolaters,nor effeminate (gays)etc..<<<

Did you know that "RIGHTEOUSNESS" means Fear of the Lord and Law-Keeping, and Love for the Lord?!!!!!!! do you that?...because has you printed here, they will be the only ones who will enter heaven!!..........Just read the other part you printed:

>>> And such were some of you but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified , but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.<<
Do you notice that here "IN WHAT YOU YOURSELF PRINTED" we are Justified by "FAITH" (Meaning You Observe the Law since there were all Jews, and then they believed that the men they have been hanging with was YHWH the Holy Spirit a.k the Father Namely Jesus) and to show the faith they went and got baptized in the Name of Jesus as YOU YOURSELF PRINTED in 1 Cor....because then you say you were baptized in the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.....show me ONE Scripture and ONE PERSON who was baptized as you say in the bible....go ahead...print the Chapter and the versicle....o.k....
You say >>>I believe in Jesus name baptism.

Be baptized in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost ,those are titles, the name is Jesus.<<<< See!!!!!!!! this is unbiblical, the first time this baptism was done was 250 years after Christ by Justin Martyr.....and it was in the Name of God, the Logos, and widsom; Tertullian a pagan greek philosper made the trinity which whas used by Constantine to keep the Roman empire together in Nicea 325....The firs person to use that "TRIAD" name was Theophilus of Antioch 170-180 a.c...and he wrote..God, Logos, and Widsom, no Father Son and Holy Spirit.....Read Acts 4:12 and you will see...

>>>>Two different evangelists told me I was called to preach, and actually God had already told me to. They were just confirming it.(2 Cor.13:1) By the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.<<

I understand, I myself was asked to be a catholic priest, a baptist pastor or preacher, a Oneness Pentecosal preacher or pastor, a SDA preacher or pastor, but I denied the invitation, 'cause I felt something was not right....and!! Now I know.....I got rebaptized in the name of Jesus because the fellow who baptized me the first time was a Law-Breaker, he had no authority at all (But I didn't know) so when I knew...I looked for someone like Peter...Law-Keeper, and believer that Jesus the Son was Jesus the Father...the devil has been playing that real good....

Paul the apostle was the apostel chossed to come to the gentiles, and he was a Jew.....Read about his conversion:
Acts 22:12 A man named Ananaias came to se me. He was a "DEVOUT OBSERVER OF THE LAW" (A law-Keeer) and highly RESPECTED by all "THE JEWS" living there. 13 he stood beside me and said!!!.. Brother "SAUL", receive your sight!, And at that very moment I was able to see Him,
14 then he said: The God of our ***thers has chosen you to know His will and to see the Righteous One (Jesus) and to hear words from His mouth. 15 You "WILL BE HIS WITNESSES" to all men of what you have seen and heard...
16 And Now what are you waiting for"Get up and "BE BAPTIZED " and wash your sins aways "CALLING ON 'HIS NAME' Jesus"...see!!!! No Name, No Law...No Grace, No Eternal life.....

God Bless......................Brother James

[BrotherJames]

Hello gagirl. Peace of Christ.

You say >>>>We are saved by grace through faith.(John 1:17)for the law came by Moses but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.<<<

Grace is only given to God's People, His Saints...The first saints were Jews Law-Keepers, who learned, accepted and Knew for a fact that Jesus the man they walked with and got crucified was YHWH the Heavenly Father....Read:

Romans 1:5 Through "HIM" (Jesus) and "FOR HIS NAME'S SAKE" (in account of His Name our sins have been forgiven at baptism in His Name...Acts 2:38)we RECEIVED "GRACE AND APOSTLESHIP" See!...satan as told the whole world that everybody after Jesus death has grace, and that is "FALSE"....all the people who lived before Jesus death were forgiven for not reazon....but after Jesus raised....anyone who commited a sin, has to talk to Him....and!!! will talk to Him....I myself belileved what you say...that is why I am now sharing the truth I found in Christ....of course satans has billions of people all over the world, in the churches, in the forums, in the t.v. etc. etc...The Grace of God is "JESUS"....Read:

Titus 2:11 For the Grace "OF GOD" who brings salvation (See!) hs appeared to all men 12 and teaches us to SAY NO "TO UNGODLINESS" (Law-Breaking, and Idols worshipers)..and worldy passions, and to LIVE SELF-CINTROLLED, UPRIGHT and GODLY LIVES (Holy, Law-Keeping, Knowing Jeus Baptised in His Name)...in this present age....see what Grace wants?!!!! do you do that?!!!!! or are you like I was long ago....believing satan happily.....believing the pastor, the priest, the preacher, etc, etc. etc...
13 While we wait for the "BLESSED" hope the glorious appearing of OUR GREAT GOD and SAVIOR, Jesus Christ, not jehovah, or yahweh, or trinity....

14 Who gave HIMSELF FOR US "TO REDEEM US" FROM ALL WICKEDNESS and "TO PURIFY" (Make Holy, as He does that to His People every Sabbath-Day)..FOR HIMSELF...(See! Even Jews had to believe that Jesus is YHWH or they will not enter in the kingdom of heaven, even they have to be baptized in His name or not GRACE...see!!) Purify for Himself people that "IS EAGER TO DO WHAT IS....GOOD"=Romans 7:16 The Law is GOOD See!!!!

>>>for the law came by Moses but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.<<
The Law of Moses come through Moses, not the Law of God "His 10 Commandments" this come through adam and eve.....Read:

Deut. 4:12Then YHWH spoke to you (Moses) out of the fire. Your heard the sound of words but saw no form, there was only a voice.
13 He declared to you "HIS COVENANT" The 10 Commandments which he comanded you to follow....see!!! Now read this:
Hosea 6:7 Like Adam, They (The Isreaelites of Moses) have broken the "COVENANT"..see!!! Adam broke it first...they were unfaithful to me, as billions of persons are today.....

I hope the bible as helped you to understand how the devil works, I now he is mad....I mean mad....he already send some of his people to shoot me up or gauge me.....

God Bless..................Brother James

[gagirl]

Brother James,
The word of God is so easy to understand that even a child can understand it. You are bringing confusion. I pray and seek the Lord and the word of God for myself, I don't rely on what the preacher or anyone else says. I actually sought the Lord a couple months ago about the Sabbath keeping. I already gave you one scripture on it and there is another one but I can't remember where it is. Jesus fulfilled the law when He shed His blood on Calvary. I worship on Friday nights and Sundays. You should really calm down about all this law- breaker stuff. We are to win people to the Lord in love ,not accusation. We are separate from the Jews. We were grafted in. God led me to a church that worships on Sunday. If He wanted me to worship on Saturday then He would have led me to the 7th day Adventist Church. The Bible says be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Shannon

[BrotherJames]

Hello gagirl. Peace of Christ.

You say >>>The word of God is so easy to understand that even a child can understand it<<<

eh!, eh!, eh! typical of satan....Nobody can understand God's word if that person is not of God, and to be of God every person needs the Holy Spirit which is adquired through baptism in the Name of Jesus, keeping His Law and knowing and undersanding that Jesus the man a.k the Son is the Jesus the Holy Spirit a.k The Father..Named YHWH)to which 99.99999999999999999999999999999999% of humans do not accept nor believe nor understand do not want....do you have that?!!!! Nope!!! ah!!!

>> I pray and seek the Lord and the word of God for myself, I don't rely on what the preacher or anyone else says<<<
Good!!! then why you do not accept when He calls you?!!!! why don't you accept the things He tells you?!!!!because satan is playing a trick on you....

>> I actually sought the Lord a couple months ago about the Sabbath keeping<<<
in a sunday keeping curch?!!!!...go to a SDA church for some months and learn something and then you deffect once you undersand that they are way off....learn the basic with them...

>> I already gave you one scripture on it and there is another one but I can't remember where it is.<<<
There is no scripture who says that the Law or the Sabbath were abolished.....no-where in the bible says that....

>>Jesus fulfilled the law when He shed His blood on Calvary<<<

So!! Jesus says I didn't come to abolish the Law, but to Abolish it?!!! is that what Jesus says?!!!! Nope.....Jesus said..I didn't come to abolish the Law but to FULL-FILL IT,meaning it, meaning filling it up..since He took over for the stones He was the embodiement of the Law, He was the Law walking with human form....He is the Law-Giver, the Lord of the Sabbath....does you bible still say Mark 2:27-28 Jesus is the Lord of the Sabbath, or Jesus was the Lord of the Sabbath or Jesus is the Lord of Sunday....what does you bible says.....Heb. 4:9 says this: Therefore "STILL REMAINS" A SABBATH-DAY FOR THE PEOPLE OF GOD see!!!! Anyone who claims to be of God, Must Observe the Sabbath, why?....Because God says so...the Lord of the Sabbath say So....The Sabbath day is when Heaven and earth fellowship, He comes to spend the day with His people, and in the ceremony of the bread and wine and washing of the feet He cleanses our hearts and renew our spirits....every Sabbath, why?....Because the Sabbath the Seventh-Day is a Holy day, so the Holy God comes, to make Holy His people....why?..cause the bible says withouth Holiness nobody will see God....Heb.12:14...see!!!!satan is taking all the human race with Him....

The bible says that the last times will be like the times of Noah!!!! how many people were saved in the time of Noah!!!! helloooooooo!!!!!

>>> I worship on Friday nights and Sundays<<<
We worship EVERYDAY too....but the Sabbath is the day of the Ceremony of the washing of the feet John 13:1-19 and the drinking of the wine and eating of the bread, and Praising and singing at sundown friday...then saturday it is a learning and fellowshiping from 1 to 3 p.m...then at sundown the closing of the Sabbath-Day.....is that what you do?...
>>>You should really calm down about all this law- breaker stuff. <<

eh!, eh!, eh!, sister, sister, sister, The Law is the reason a person gets grace, and eternal life..A Church withouth a Sabbath-Day is like a Cross without a Jesus...of no value to man.....Jesus is the Law giver, and those words you spoke....you'd better ask forgivness.....

>> We are to win people to the Lord in love ,not accusation<<

I do not accuse anyone....I have no authority to do...but the Holy Spirit does, and boy!!! does He do.....Besides Love is the Law...read:
2 John and this is LOVE that we walk in OBEDIENCE TO HIS COMMANDMENTS as it was in the beginning?....see!!!! Now you know what the biblical Love is....
1 John 4:8 God is Love....
1 John 5:2 and this is how we know that we love The Children "OF GOD" (Not the children of satan)...when We "OBEY HIS COMMANDMENTS"..
5:3 and this is how we know how we LOVE GOD "When we OBEY HIS COMMANDMENTS"...see!!!!
Jesus said: If YOU LOVE ME "YOU WILL OBEY MY COMMANDMENTS" that is the proff Jesus demans from humans to show Love for Him...He died in the Cross to show love for us....

1 Cor. 16:22 He/she who doesn't love Jesus is "CURSED" (He/she who do not Obey His Commandments)..= Matthew 25:41 Then He (Jesus) will say to those on His left....DEPART FROM ME you ALL WHO ARE "CURSED" into the Eternal Fire prepared for the devil and His Angels....see!!!! where all the Law-Breakers will end up?.......

Deut. 7:9 Know therefore that YHWH your God is God; He is the faithful God keeping "HIS COVENANT OF LOVE" (Some Covenant He made with the New Spiritual Israel In John 14:15)to a thousand generations of those who LOVE HIM AND "KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS"......

If you are tired of hearing this...just ignore what I post, simple....just think as many do...he is crazy....wait for judgment day....

>>>We are separate from the Jews<<<
You are incorrect.....Read:
Ephesians 2:12 Remember that at that time you were separate from Christ, excluded from citizenship in Israel and foreingers to the covenant of the promise without hope and without God in the world.
17 But now in Chris Jesus you who once were far away have been brought through the blood of Christ.
14 For He himself is our peace who has "MADE THE TWO 'ONE' (Jews and Gentieles) and destroyed the barrier , the dividing wall of hostility...(The Law of Moses)...15 By abolishing in His flesh the LAW with its commandments and regulations..The Law of Moses, the Law of God has not regulations no decrees, no eating or driking offerings etc. etc....see!!!!!

>>God led me to a church that worships on Sunday. If He wanted me to worship on Saturday then He would have led me to the 7th day Adventist Church. <<<

Not really....Just look what happened to you...."You runned into me"...a Person who knows everything about the Sabbath....better than the SDA so if you really want to know about the Sabbath...go ahead ask questions...I work for Jesus....

>>>The Bible says be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.<<

CORRECT!!!!! But not in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit....there is no Name here...and the Name of Jesus was given to be saved, whever had faith....Acts 4:12+2:38-40...

I hope you understand and if you are really looking for Christ, He is there by you....And If you have questions...just ask.....

God Bless............Brother James

[gagirl]

I am already saved regardless of what you say and i have nothing else to say to you because you obviously know everything already.

[BrotherJames]

Hello gagirl. Peace of Christ.

You say >>>You should really calm down about all this law- breaker stuff.

And the bible says:

The Holy Spirit said through Solomon:

Ecclesiastes 12:13 Now!!! all has been heard; HERE IS THE CONCLUSION OF THE MATTER: "FEAR GOD" (Hate Evil=Brake His Law...Prov. 8:13) and KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS...."FOR THIS IS THE "WHOLE DUTY OF MAN"....See! That is why Jesus come, to restore His Law, and to give His Testimony that He was YHWH in human form....There is nothing more important for a Christian than to Know who Jesus is and to OBEY HIS LAW....No Law-Breakers will be allowed into Heaven Rev. 22:14....


Then you say >>>>I am already saved regardless of what you say and i have nothing else to say to you because you obviously know everything already>

O.K.....Your decision will be honored by Jesus and me...so!! good luck....

God Bless.........................Brother James